Has any one had any experience with waterless urinals? Are they any good and are they more maintenance intensive from adding the liquid,pulling cartridges etc.? Thanks for any input.
just came across an article that today , Aug 2,2012, 1600 counties in 32 States are under drought emergencies- guess we have to look at things that save water!
Yes, I tested them and they were nearly seamless. The only time there was ever a problem was if the monthly maintenance was not done on time. I tested Kohler's product and as i recall it did not use a "cartridge" but just the liquid. Housekeeping cleaned it nightly just like a regular urinal, and our maintenance staff flushed out the sealant liquid monthly and applied a new layer. Easy. And green!
On retrofits you really save now and the most as water prices keep rising. Even if drain lines need to be lowered,that only extends the payback period by a couple of months. With paybacks under 2 years as we calculated that really has very little impact.
Waterless Urinals work great at test sites and on paper, however,
Who has a maintenance staff (contractor) at a commercial bld. that knows how to maintain correctly?
That is the ISSUE, Real World vs paper test world.
I was an Accredited Green Plumbing Instructor and still listed on Green Plumbers for Wash.DC.
I Want water use reductions also, however this technology only works WHEN maintain properly and when you see someone spraying one down with their normal cleaning materials, you also know its just a matter of time before they have an issue with odors and performance.
Sorry no axe to grind here, and do not sell urinals of any style, just my field experience taken form projects I have seen where they spent a lot of money to go back and put in low flow fixtures instead.